#050: College Prof Fired for Deviating From “The Plan”; Turns to Copywriting and Doubles Income with Douglas Pew.

I’m excited to share this episode with you. I heard of my guest Doug Pew from a man named Ben Settle, who is one of the top minds internet marketing today.

Doug is a terrific musician and accomplished composer of operas. In fact, it was after Doug got fired after getting an opera commissioned by the Kennedy Center in Washington, DC that he was put on his current career path which has proven to be quite profitable. In fact, he’ll tell you in this interview that he made more money from one single product launch than he would typically earn in two years at his previous academic job.

The big takeaway from this episode for me was that it is possible to do what we love to do; and oftentimes being rejected from “The Plan” leads us to pursuing the path we’ve been meant to do all along!

What you’ll hear in this episode:

-The appeal of opera to the modern audience which is inundated with entertainment options….01:00

-The major components of an opera, and how opera differs from musical theater…06:00

-How having an opera commissioned at the Kennedy Center led to Doug getting the axe at his academic gig…18:00

-How a raw deal in academia led to greener pastures in internet marketing…21:10

-How getting good at music can prepare you for success with jobs that actually pay money…33:45

-The MU.S.I.C. method of persuading people to dig what you have to say (or play)…42:45

  • Misery
  • Unique promise
  • Sure solution
  • Ideal world
  • Call to adventure (clear path to paradise)

And whatever your discerning ears deem worthy of your time and interest…

Resources mentioned:

Ben Settle’s Email Players newsletter

How to Write Copy that Sells by Ray Edwards

Latter Day Musiversity – Doug’s music writing program mentioned

1 Comments

  1. Christopher Coalntuono on September 7, 2023 at 4:53 pm

    Thanks James and Douglas! This was a fascinating listen as a musician, songwriter and educator negotiating an increasingly hostile climate.

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